SCALPURE USERS HONEST RESULTS

1. My hair is actually shiny again. That was the first thing I noticed.

2.Itchiness is gone (took 2 applicatins) I have used Minox for years and developed and itch and I am glad to see that go.

Seriously the health of my scalp is awesome and it leaves my hair looking great. Although minox worked for me it always dried my hair and this brought the shine back. I know some users have said the smell bothers them but it is not an issue for me but I also use stright ACV and that does not bother me either. It may even end up being a good pre-laser topical, who knows. I think Nid is trying it as well so I will look for his updates too. I will keep you guys posted and it will be interesting to see other posters and their responses. just thought I would add my 2 cents on this and give the results of what I have seen so far.

Oh and I agree with jaydee. TAKE PICS AND POST THEM. I have taken my before pics and in a month will take another and so on and post them here. We can upload pics again, John has fixed that.

Most of all it's good to be back!!!!

I will be taking before/afters as well, and dropping HGF for a month while trialing it. So, only lasering and Scalpure.

Also I forgot to mention my Wife is also trying it and has used it a few times and she is saying he hair is not as "flat and oily", also that it takes less time to blow dry in the morning. I forgot to mention that and thought is was relevant to point out for women.

Carry on guys!

Looking forward to see how things are for you 6 months from now Nid..just using the Scalpure.

I'm back on Proscar as of this past Monday (2.5mg/day). Restarting Minoxidil therapy this week as well, checking out the scalpure to see what that's like, and evaluting different laser devices for addition to my treatments. I have lost a bit of hair in the last couple of months due to stress and not being on anything and I intend to get it back It seems to already be improving though so I am guessing it may have been a synchronized shed due to no longer taking the minoxidil formul I was on before that I will be restarting (Dr. Klein's Minoxidil+Retin-A+Finasteride spray 3x/day). That stuff DEFINITELY works for me when I take it regularly although if you overdue it it can sometimes cause scalp irritaion/peeling. I'm looking forward to seeing what my hair looks like this time next year. Will be taking new photos and posting them in the next week or so.

You'd be best-suited to not start up Minoxidil in conjunction with Scalpure, as we can't prove if the Minox. is causing positive results or your Scalpure. Give the Scalpure an honest trial for now. I'm even dropping my HGF for a month while using it.

right now i do laser,tea trea oil shampoo,and scalpure,and every vitamins possible(fish oil,curcumin,resveratrol.......)approx 30 caps a day i take i also dermaroll the back of my head where there is nothing ,and i hope something is gonna happen also there

the guy at scalpure recommanded me also to have my teeth fillings changed,because MAYBE i got some mercure in my blood. but from my experience my hairloss is linked to my sexual activity and stress,

one thing also you will notice is that when you leave scalpure on your forehead,after you wash it ,your skin will look very red where the clay was,so i thi k it is one of the reason why it certainly may work for at least diffuse thinner, i just am happy because of what i have noticed after my last haircut

no i dont work for this company, and i ***** all the companies out there selling expensive products wich doesnt nothing i always knew there was a balance to every thing in the nature

Nid at the moment I'm gonna do both because I know the minoxidil will work for me but I have no idea if scalpure will for all i know it does nothing but make my hair look good However the results they claim... it should be obvious if it is providing additional result because there are limits to what minoxidil will do for me. I think enough people are using it on their own here we'll know if it does much within a few months since they say it works fast. I'm skeptical of those claims but always open to convincing proof.

I've always been a kitchen sink kind of guy anyway so it's always been hard to know what works best for me but if I'm on treatments I'm doing the best to keep my hair.... i'll be a guinea pig but i still want maximum results plus it is good to compare people who are on other treatments vs. scalpure alone.

my samples are still in the box as of now i'll be trying them in a couple of days

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I got the same question. Where are the ingredients?

It has also however given me some pimples on the forehead. But I don't know if this is 'creating' them, or just bringing the stuff to the surface. When i originally went to my doctor for acne ages ago, he said some products will bring the stuff to the surface, making things worse for the first few weeks....so time will tell, but that's my 2 cents.

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aw come on, it's not that bad

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it goes something like this and i'm sure we can all relate. somedays we think the product is working and somedays we think it's not. So after 2 months i'm not sure what to say.

Also, whenever i try out a new product my hair loss always seemed worst after two months, minox, revivogen, propecia etc. Not sure i can say the same with scalpure. so it's a mix bag.

I just need to give thsi product more time.

http://twitter.com/Scalpure

If he hadn't sent free product out...you guys would *still* be all over him. Remember the beginning of all this..?

He's made comments like that in these forums as well.

And now he has them off the page.

And btw. You have no problem responding to questions you feel like responding to..but ignore all the others, even if they're posted over and over.

I am the inventor of Scalpure. Steven Banas

2. What is his background and credentials?

I have a Bachelor's Degree in Communications from a University. I am not a Doctor or a Scientist. During the invention process I did consult with a Practitioner of Natural Medicine and a Trichologist who has offices in New York City. In the past I have also extensively researched natural treatments of certain health issues, and I have had success. That success led me to believe that I had the ability to find something natural that would work for hair loss.

3. How and why was the product invented?

I had been experiencing hair loss for 10 years to different degrees. I tried many different approaches and products. Among them were Natural Internal DHT Blockers, Topical DHT Blockers, All Natural No SLS Shampoos, Emu Oil, Growth Stimulating Topicals, Scalp Exfoliators, Arginine and Ornithine supplements, Hair Vitamins, etc. I will not name products specifically. I will say that my hair continued to gradually thin with all of them. Despite that fact, each time I started something new I was excited and hopeful. I even called numerous companies and they would all tell me I would at least keep the hair I had. This did not happen with any of the treatments. It is important to mention that I gave all of these approaches a chance. I was strict and consistent with my regimens. I am not saying these approaches will not work for other people, what I am saying is I know for a fact that they did not work for me. After 10 years of trying to solve my problem on my own with no success I decided to visit a Trichologist. A Trichologist is an expert in examining the hair and even more importantly the scalp.

When I went to see this Trichologist I went in there thinking there is no way this guy is going to find anything wrong with my scalp because I had been doing everything my research told me I should be doing. From Internal DHT Blockers, Topical DHT Blockers, All Natural No SLS Shampoos that are not supposed to leave build-up, etc.. First he examined the surface of my scalp. He told me there was a build-up on my scalp that was hindering my hair growth. He also told me I had dandruff which I never thought I had. Both of these findings surprised me.

Next it was time for him to gently take hair samples from different sections of my scalp. He told me this was to examine the build-up around the hair roots. I was thinking my hair roots are going to be as clean as they need to be. I had been taking DHT Blockers and I had been applying Topical DHT blockers. How could there possibly be DHT attached to my hair roots I thought. When he put my hair roots under the microscope I was absolutely shocked at what I saw on the screen. There was what I will describe as a blob of junk attached to my hair roots. He told me that accumulation was causing my hair roots to be starved of the nutrients they should be receiving. I asked the trichologist if that was DHT and he said yes it was among other things. I was easily able to see that the tremendous build-up was causing my hair to gradually thin. He explained that this process eventually kills the hair follicles. The I asked him if that build-up had never occurred would my hair not have thinned. He said my hair would not have thinned if the build-up was not there. I thought that was very interesting. As I sat there many thoughts went through my mind. I remember one of thoughts was it is amazing how I was buying and using products that I thought would prevent exactly what I was seeing. I felt lied to by so many companies and products.

The Trichologist talked to me for a while and told me I was suffering from Androgenic Alopecia or Male Pattern Hair Loss. He recommended a treatment program that would cost me $2,000 for 6 months. The treatment regimen consisted of a pre-shampoo leave in treatment, a specific shampoo, topicals to help dissolve the DHT and topical DHT blockers. I wasn't at all impressed with the results he felt I would be able to obtain. He told me I could try to solve the problem on my own if I wanted to through research. When I left his office that was my main objective. When I went home I threw out all of the products I had been using for so long. I also made a decision to develop my own theory and approach. I felt relying on these big companies has gotten me no results to this point. It was time to rely on myself after learning exactly what was causing my hair loss.

I had a theory to pull out the impurities from beneath the surface of the scalp. These impurities would include DHT. I also did not think it would be necessary to use topical DHT blockers with this approach. I would be creating and maintaining the optimum environment for maximum hair growth. I believed if I could naturally pull out and remove the impurities that are attached to and surrounding the hair roots and maintain that environment my hair roots would be nourished and fed the way the body wants to nourish and feed them. I hoped this would make my hair flourish and come back the way I wanted it to.

Through research, I came up with a natural formula that I believed would remove build-up from the surface of the scalp and more importantly I believed the formula would pull out impurities from beneath the surface of the scalp that were attached to and surrounding hair roots. I consulted with a Practioner of Natural Medicine to verify what I thought my formula would do. He confirmed that it was possible.

So I started using the formula every other day. Immediately I noticed that my hair and scalp felt and looked healthier. One thing that always frustrated me was not long after I would take a shower my hair would look like it needed to be washed again. After I started to use my formula this was no longer the case. My hair looked healthy and clean all day and all night. This was something that I loved immediately about it. I cannot remember the last time I was able to say that. My hair even looked good after waking up in the morning. It just seemed so much healthier. Soon after that I thought my hair looked thicker and shinier. It had been dull and lifeless and that was not the case anymore. It had more body, more shine, it was easier to style and like I said it looked healthy all day and night. I knew all of these were good signs. 1 Month after I started to use my formula I visited the same Trichologist again to find out what was going on. I was very excited to see him because I thought my hair and scalp were headed in the right direction.

He immediately noticed that my hair looked better. First he examined the surface of my scalp. He said the build-up was gone and he said the dandruff was gone. Then it was time for him to gently take hair samples to examine my hair roots under the microscope. He commented that my hair was stronger and harder to pull out. When he did get some hair samples from the same sections of my scalp he had previously taken samples from he examined them under the microscope. When he compared them to the previous samples you could clearly see that these hair roots were cleaner than they were the last time I had visited his office. I was smiling big on the outside and even bigger on the inside because I was so happy that my formula was doing exactly what I thought it would do. My hair roots had a ways to go before they were as clean as I wanted them to be but it was obvious that they were headed in the right direction. He was definitely impressed with what he was seeing. When I left his office I felt like I was walking on air.

I continued to use my formula for a few more months. I used it every other day and left it on for 40-45 minutes each time. Then I rinsed it off in the shower. Then I washed my hair as usual. My hair was continuing to improve. I was beginning to experience regrowth because my hair was looking more full. I visited the the Trichologist again to see what was going on beneath the surface of my scalp. He was very impressed with the way my hair was looking. The surface of the scalp was healthy. The hair was thicker and stronger. He acknowledged that it looked more full. Again he took hair samples from the same sections of my scalp that he had previously taken them from. When he examined them under the microscope they were significantly cleaner than they were the last time. He told me that my hair root system is being nourished and built-up again and that is why my hair is coming back. At this point I knew my formula worked. Not long after that I thought it would be great to have some other people try it to see what it does for them.

I took hair samples from the trial users before they started using my formula and then I took hair samples months after they were using my formula from the same sections of their scalp. Their results were the same as mine. I had their hair samples viewed by the Trichologist and their roots were being cleansed the same as mine. As their hair roots were cleansed their hair kept looking better and better.

At this point I knew I had inventing something that would be able to help countless people. I thought this was a great thing that I am very proud of. Eventually my formula was released as Scalpure.

4. How have the claims regarding the method of action been verified? DHT being electromagnetically sucked from a follicle isn't exactly something you see with a magnifying glass in the garage.

As I said in my previous answer they were verified by having hair samples taken from specific sections of the scalp before using my formula. Then there were more hair samples taken from the same sections of the scalp after using my formula the way I recommended for at least 2 months. The hair roots were examined by a Trichologist under a microscope to verify what was happening. We were clearly able to see that the hair roots were getting cleaner and cleaner with continued use of my formula.

5. What is the background of Mr Banas? What other businesses have you previously run, apart from selling cards of famous people on eBay?

I am very proud of my background and how I was raised. I have not run many businesses. I have sold items on ebay in the past, but that is irrelevant. I actually never had any plans of selling a hair loss product. The only reason I am selling a hair loss product is because I found something that works and I want it to help other people. I have always felt the most gratifying business would be a business that could help people. Scalpure is a product that will help countless people and I am very proud of this. I am very proud to say that I have invented something that will make people happier and change lives for the better.

6. What is the active ingredient responsible for the alleged "electromagnetic pulling"? What mass does a molecule of that active substance have?

One of the active ingredients is Montmorillonite and it is responsible for the pulling. I don't know the answer to the second part of the question.

7. If the active ingredient is montmorillonite (from the bentonite), can you explain how this 550u particle overcomes the 500 dalton rule?

I don't know the answer to this question, as I said earlier I am not a Doctor or Scientist.

8. How does the active ingredient reach and embed the root of the follicle (which extends down to the border of the subcutis) as illustrated by the graphics on your website?

The active ingredient does not reach and embed the root of the follicle. Our formula pulls out and attracts the impurities that are attached to and surrounding the hair roots. When you rinse the Scalpure formula off, the impurities that were attracted to the Scalpure formula are rinsed away.

9. What percentage of the product reaches the target (a follicle) and consequently, what percentage misses its proposed target and ends up in systematic circulation?

The active ingredient does not reach and embed the root of the follicle. Our formula pulls out and attracts the impurities that are attached to and surrounding the hair roots. When you rinse the Scalpure formula off the impurities that were attracted to the Scalpure formula are rinsed away.

10. By what action is the active substance propelled back through the dermis and epidermis after it supposedly has sucked out a DHT molecule? Or is it left in the body?

It is not propelled back through the skin and it is not left in the body.

11. What is the (average) distance between the active ingredient and the DHT molecule when it is being electromagnetically pulled from the follicle?

I don't know the answer to this question.

12. What are the other ingredients for?

The other ingredients help make the formula as effective as it can be. They remove build-up and bacteria from the surface of the scalp as well as condition the hair.

13. What exactly makes the Scalpure product effective, compared to other products containing seemingly the same ingredients, which have all failed to deliver anything substantial for AGA sufferers? A vague answer like "we have made it better" it not what I'm looking for. There has to be an exact chemical reason why it works, a reason you must surely know since you make very specific claims about the mode of action of the product.

These aren't the same main ingredients that have been used in the past for hair loss. This approach is really the opposite of what has been main stream. Our approach is about pulling stuff out. Other approaches are about flooding the scalp with topical treatments that supposedly block DHT and stimulate hair growth. I personally tried those approaches and they did nothing for me when I went and had my scalp and my hair roots examined. If those approaches did what they were supposed to do then there would not have been any accumulation. Instead there was tremendous accumulation. Scalpure pulls out impurities and allows the hair roots to be nourished and fed by the blood.

14. What is the restocking fee when using the money back guarantee? Is it a no questions asked guarantee? Is it valid even if the product has been completely used up?

No restocking fee and 4 containers can be completely used. It is a no questions asked guaranatee.

15. Why would the charged molecule just suck out DHT? Why wouldn't it attract and interfere with all molecules of opposite charge? In fact, the body is FULL of polar molecules of both positive and negative charges.

Our product naturally pulls out and eliminates impurities, nothing else.

We have photos posted on our website http://www.Scalpure.com that display early results. We will be adding more photos in the future.

It's the same exact %&$! story that Steve just posted and said was his own. He just changed 2-3 little details and copy pasted the rest, I call %&$!.

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And now Steve has deleted THAT from the website...

nick..Morrocco has a clay based product- Zen Detox..far different from the shampoo line.

I can't disagree that he didn't introduce his product properly on the fourms. Nor can I disagree that his use of science in describing the actions of the product is lacking. But you are getting to the point where you are just plain obnoxious on this topic.

What's obnoxious is having ppl try to defend what this guy has done..regardless of whether or not the person received free product...and to then, instead of just ignoring posts like mine, responding and in doing so calling those of us obnoxious or __________. Even though you agree with us that something is screwy here.

. Who gives a shit whether a testimonial was taken down or not? He gave his explanation it's time to move on.

Is Steve "shady?" Why not call him? Shady people usually are difficult to get a hold of. I made a comment here on scalpure and steve sent me an email to call him. Shady people wouldn't dare do that.

I believe steve believes in his product. However, all i care about is whether i believe in the product not some fucking testimonial

Some of us DO care. You can call that $2000 yogurt topical guy too. So?

And btw....that could be considered "shady". Don't respond here..instead pm or email for us to call him. I got a pm like that as well..shall I share it with you? I didn't fall for it.

See what I said about talking to Steve. It was a nice try..but I'm not falling for it.

Steve comes off as "shady" to more than just me. One can be crazy about their product and still not make outrageous claims...fake testimonials(oh wait..it was taken down because ppl were making fun of it!)...etc. Not to mention how he first came to this forum. And btw..actually having a twin brother has nothing to do with the points being raised. That's at least the 2nd time now that I've had to point that out.

Jacob I see you putting up discount sales codes for products I've never even heard of before much less seen any proof for them doing anything for hair loss (remember the lamas thread?) -- you seem to have no problem with these other products with little or no evidence that they work and promoting sales on them, but steve is actually here, giving people free product so that they'll show their results -- something the companies you have listed on here before don't do -- and you're trying to pick him to pieces. If you came from the point of being someone who ALWAYS questioned company products I might understand that... but it seems like you pick and choose some that you approve of, and the other ones you try to rip to pieces... it seems to me there is as much likelihood of steve's product working for someone as the lamas stuff or some of the other products you've linked to. I just don't understand why those products are ok but steve is the second coming of the antichrist because his brother used his product and he posted his testimonial on his site.

I don't know if steven's product will grow one single hair for anyone -- but I do know at least he as the cojones to let the results speak for themselves and believes in his product enough to speak up for it and take some criticism. How many other companies do you see doing that?? If his product doesn't do crap, then he is shooting himself in the foot by doing it... doesn't seem very much like a scam to me. Then again, just because Steve believes in his product, that has very little to do with whether it works or not. But at least give his product a little time to show some results before you beat him into the ground

What I can say about Scalpure, for the moment, is that my hair does look better, that I don't have dandruff anymore (an on-and-off problem all the more embarrassing that I favor black clothes), and that it works better to clean the skin than the best facial scrub I've ever tried. However, a couple of issues are bothering me, and I'd be thankful if you, Mr Banas, could address them:

1) On the "Why Scalpure works..." section of your website, we can read: "Through extensive research we have learned that the individuals that keep their full heads of hair while producing more DHT display clean hair follicles and hair roots when examined under a high powered microscope."

It seems to me that you're stating that the difference between people who lose their hair and people who don't is dirty follicles, rather than the current scientific theory that some hairs are more sensitive to DHT than others. The problem is, if dirty follicles were the main culprits, then there should be no widow peak, no crown of hair, no irregularity in the thinning pattern: people should always lose their hair all over their head. The thinning should be even.

2) On the order page of your website, it says that "each container of Scalpure includes approximately 6-8 applications." If you were to apply it on a baby's skull, maybe. I can usually squeeze 4-5 applications out of a container, and it is not enough to cover my hair like the hair of the man in the right margin of the main page of your website. Not by a long stretch. He must have used half the container to get that thick a coverage, if not the whole of it.

Questions...

1. On the "Why Scalpure works..." section of your website, we can read: "Through extensive research we have learned that the individuals that keep their full heads of hair while producing more DHT display clean hair follicles and hair roots when examined under a high powered microscope."

It seems to me that you're stating that the difference between people who lose their hair and people who don't is dirty follicles, rather than the current scientific theory that some hairs are more sensitive to DHT than others. The problem is, if dirty follicles were the main culprits, then there should be no widow peak, no crown of hair, no irregularity in the thinning pattern: people should always lose their hair all over their head. The thinning should be even.

Answer: This is a theory that we believe in. In the research we have done people that keep their hair display significantly cleaner hair roots when their hair roots are examined under a high powered microscope. In my opinion this is more than likely because they are blessed with a superior root cleansing system that regularly flushes out impurities and does not allow them to accumulate. However this does not mean that they will never experience accumulation around the hair roots. Some people have full heads of hair and then one day they start to thin. That is why I believe our product is great for everyone to use to some degree. Scalpure will absolutely benefit individuals with full heads of hair because it will ensure that the optimum growing environment is maintained.

Pattern hair loss is not the same on everyone. Some people just receed, some people lose hair in the crown, some people lose hair in both areas, etc. We believe that is where the genetics come in. In my opinion each individual that is experiencing hair loss has their own tendency where excessive accumulation will occur and that is why they lose their hair in specific areas.

I don't believe that certain follicles are more sensitive to DHT. I believe that all follicles are sensitive to DHT among other things. I believe that certain follicles in certain areas of the scalp are sensitive to accumulating more DHT as well as other impurities and that is why thinning and hair loss happens. Actually we had hair roots from the sides of the head and the back of the head examined and those hair roots also displayed accumulation of DHT and other impurities, however the accumulation was not as significant. The accepted theory by many people out there says those hairs are not affected by DHT, I don't agree with that.

2. On the order page of your website, it says that "each container of Scalpure includes approximately 6-8 applications." If you were to apply it on a baby's skull, maybe. I can usually squeeze 4-5 applications out of a container, and it is not enough to cover my hair like the hair of the man in the right margin of the main page of your website. Not by a long stretch. He must have used half the container to get that thick a coverage, if not the whole of it.

Answer: Its possible that you are not wetting your hair enough before you apply it. The amount of applications is going to vary depending on the length of your hair. We have had some people say they are getting 8 applications with average length hair. However some people are saying they are getting 5-6 applications. I guess it really depends on the person and how much they are using each time. If you want to email us a picture when it is applied we will tell you if you can use less than you are using. You can email us through the contact us section of the website.

Hopefully these answers help.

You're missing the point..still. HE TOOK IT DOWN. Do you buy his excuse for taking it down?

"Webmaster"......am I selling them? Am I making up idiotic claims for them?(The companies themselves aren't either) Am I or are they coming here posting as a casual poster when it's actually somebody from the company? Are they taking things off of their websites because they're being caught with their pants down?

You want to talk about picking and choosing..I'm holding up a mirror for you. There's the webmaster holding a bottle of Scalpure!

Oh let's see....A&G does it...Dr. P does it....it's so not the point, and not the only way to judge a company by. If that's the case..I could start up a new thread on all the companies who do..and we'll see how consistent you are

And of course my other points were once again ignored.

you didn't understand or hear my points either, so I guess we're even. My point is you are pointing out this guy you think is a scam artist... but you are promoting products that as far as I can tell are just as likely to be scams and do nothing. And as for whether you are selling them, I really don't know. You are the only person I see who posts 'sales codes' -- funny that sales codes can easily be used as a reference to a sales person who gets credit for the sales. So are you promoting them -- I don't know you tell me? I have no idea why you are posting sales codes regularly for products that appear to have no evidence for effectiveness and i've never really seen you discuss them other than for sales codes

And as for me picking and choosing... I guess just like you accused me of you didn't read my message or get the point either... if you read it back you'll see where I said I have NO IDEA if scalpure will grow one single hair on anyone. But if I were to take YOUR model jacob, then every post you make with sales codes to these products, I should be bashing them hardcore as being scams with no proof of working, whether I know that personally or not. Personally I usually give something the benefit of the doubt until I know for sure what it will do. Yes, I'll hold scalpure up... and minoxidil, and propecia, and proscar, and avodart, and lasers... and anything else I believe will work for some people to grow hair. I'll even hold lamas up and try it if they send me some. And I will just as quickly (sorry steve) throw scalpure in the trash if/when I find out it does absolutely nothing for hair growth. And I'll tell people while I'm trying scalpure all the way I have no idea if it will work... see how that works?

I never said someone believing strongly and debating people publicly about their product is the only way to judge a company. I just said AT LEAST unlike many others, steve actually does it.

You seem to have very much made up your mind about steve/scalpure, and nothing anyone else tells you here matters to you. It's like you have your fingers in your ears going 'no no no no no i don't want to hear it's a scam scam scam'. May be that it doesn't work for crap... but you could at least give it proper time to before you pronounce judgement

I'm just saying maybe you should let people use it for 6 months to see if people actually get results before you declare it a scam

Also, what other points? I don't see any Maybe you should make an explicit list of your points

Scalpure DIY

I understood and responded to all your points. You were the one just sticking to the twin issue.

Anyone who is on Lamas' mailing list get's the "code". Same for Swanson's, etc. Get on their mailing lists and see for youself. The only one I'm aware of that others didn't get(and I could be wrong about that) is the DermaHeal discount. I'm not making a dime off of providing the "code"..I've not received any product from them or anything. Besides the "selling"..again: Am I making up idiotic claims for them?(The companies themselves aren't either) Am I or are they coming here posting as a casual poster when it's actually somebody from the company? Are they taking things off of their websites because they're being caught with their pants down? So go ahead..bash any product I've posted "codes" to..do whatever you want. They're not my products..not my companies.

On your last post..I'm not claiming to know why Steve took the testimonial down. HE STATED WHY HE DID...HIMSELF. I'm wondering now if you've even read some of the posts in this thread. That issue..the claims Steve made on Twitter and then took down..etc.

ljc08..I'm not upset at all. Just pointing it out..asking questions. On this issue no one has yet to give an answer except to say- who cares? Which is fine..but plenty do care. I could provide urls to threads at other sites who also question all of this. Some I'm not even participating in

star_nova....strange 2 posts there. Even I am not telling ppl to make their own etc

Yes I've read all the posts in this thread, but do you have every post in here memorized? I don't

Re: the codes, just asking that's why it was a question -- you answered that fully and to my satisfaction

I'm not going to respond anymore to the post other than that... I made my points -- you say you read/understood but I don't see that at all from your reply. Sounds like you feel the same -- guess we will have to agree to disagree

Jacob, star nova's and the other posts aren't strange... maybe you should consider if multiple people are telling you the way you are coming off... instead of telling them no it's not true you are not listening/understanding me... maybe consider that that is actually how you come off and think about why people are telling you that

As for your posts on A&G, nope haven't read them so not sure what you're implying there

Hope you don't take any of my posts personally I'm just trying to show you that others may have a bit of a different take on the whole thing than you do. I value your contributions to the site and your devil's advocate posts on a lot of these products... sometimes it seems confusing to me why some products you rip on but others you don't, but that's just my perception I'm sure you have your own reasoning

I think this thread was SUPPOSED to be originally about people posting their results (or lack thereof) -- why don't you start a new thread with just the specific questions you have that stll haven't been answered so that they are not lost in this long thread

Up to now, I am. I can't pronounce myself on the regrowth just yet (it's actually been less than two months, I realize now, since I started using Scalpure), but it does make the hair look better, and it does seem to eliminate dandruffs better than even the best shampoo -- I say "seem" because my dandruff comes and goes (I have fits of dandruffs, imagine that), so I'll have to wait to be sure they won't come back; but right now, I have none, so I'm quite hopeful.

As an anecdote, I'll add that it worked wonder for me as a band-aid: I had small scratches that didn't want to heal (didn't want to dry up) after several weeks, and a regular band-aid would just keep the fluids trapped and the wounds ugly; I tried using Scalpure, since I vaguely remembered that clean mud could be used on small wounds in some cases to prevent infection, and it worked great: the wounds dried up and, after a few days, looked better and closed themselves.

Not for international customers, alas. The $45 S&H price tag is hefty. Of course, dutasteride and oral minoxidil aren't exactly cheap either. Scalpure costs me more than either, though.

Okaaay... The fact that dirt should accumulate more on the front of the head for some people (widow peak) and more on the back of the head for others (monk's haircut) still puzzles me, but to be perfectly fair, nobody has been able to explain why hairs situated in different areas on the same head should be more sensitive to DHT either.

Even if I use too much, though, I still use a lot less than the model on your website, who's supposed to demonstrate how much of the product should be used. His hair is caked in mud; there's no way he only used 1/6 of a container!

You've been very straightforward, not to mention very fast. I'll give your product a fair shake, while I have the disposable income. I'll have a better idea of my current state of regrowth/density after I get a haircut: I actually got my hair cut short before I started using your product, but my hair can grow nearly one inch per month; I once shaved it entirely and, one year later, it hang below my shoulders. Too bad length and density aren't always going hand in hand!

As for multiple ppl "telling me"...trust me, there are many times more who are "telling Steve". And not the "great post, webmaster" type of posts

Scalpure - International Shipping

As for the way you are applying it, I do think you should make sure your hair is wet and then get a thin layer in contact with the entire scalp. Then thicken the layer on the areas that are thinning. I really think you should be getting 6 applications out of a container if your hair is average length for a man. If you have any more questions regarding this please let me know.

It sounds like your hair grows very fast! This is a great thing. I am very confident that you will get great results. Please be consistent and patient.

My next post will have photos showing early results of a local person that is using Scalpure.

Scalpure Updated Photos

We also lowered the price for International Shipping to help International Customers. We will be losing on shipping but hopefully this will help out the people outside the United States that are interested in our product. www.Scalpure.com Please view the photos that I posted.

First Scalpure Photo - June 24th, 2009 - Day 5

Second Scalpure Photo - August 8th, 2009 - Day 49

Newest & Updated Scalpure Photo - September 8th, 2009 - Day 80

In all of these photos the hair is styled the exact same way... the same wet look. The updated photo is his latest progress and only the beginning of what his ultimate results will be. The latest picture is almost 3 months into his Scalpure usage and he is progressing very nicely.

I also notice in the first photograph the guy has a fresh haircut... then in the next 2 photos the hair is longer each time... for a fair comparison the hair should be cut and styled like in the first photograph with near the same angle and lighting - some of that density in the second two photos is definitely due to the hair being longer.

We don't say that our product will grow hair on complete bald spots.

As for photos we will be adding more. There is one individual in particular that is experiencing Male Pattern Hair Loss and he is very excited because he is already seeing some positive things. He has been using only our product for 2 weeks. He does not have any bald spots but he was headed in that direction. I expect him to get great results. He has a buzz cut like I said in a previous post so there will be no question with the progress that he makes. I agree that this type of hair cut is the best hair cut to show results. Plus he wears his hair dry. This is also great because there will be no wetness questions.

For someone to say we will be gone in 3 months is a shock considering almost all of the reports from users of our product have been very positive. In fact there is a Hair Clinic in Dubai that loves our product and they are going to distribute it in the Middle East. We will be around for a long time and I am happy that our product will be able to help countless people that catch their hair loss in time. Its important to remember that our product has only been available for 3 months. We are getting reorders so that is a great sign that it is working for people. We have provided photos that show a clear difference. I have gotten emails saying how great the improvement on that individual's hair is. I have gotten emails telling me how much better people's hair looks after using our product for a short time. The most any customer has used our product is almost 3 months. This is a very short time. How much could be expected in such a short time. So far the reports are mostly very positive and this is a great thing that most people seem to be excited about.

Anybody can say we're getting reorders blah blah blah..and no, the photos do not show a clear difference..as I and others have pointed out.

A member from another forum site that is respected and has made 40 posts said...

Whatever thickening mechanism is behind scalpure.....it sure works.

I have been using for 3 weeks now and at the start of it My hairline is slightly receded like it has been slowly doing for the past couple of years, but I always had a solid line. But over the past few month's i started to thin into my hairline, circular half dollar size thinning on my right and left side... needless to say, i was depressed as my hairloss seemed to advanced to another level.........

but Now my line is solid again after using the scalpure for said amount of time.

Still receded, but solid

Like i said...I dont really know the difference between Cosmetic thickening or General thickening...but it has helped me in that regard since i was scared shitless not too long ago.

As far as regrowth goes with this.....i have only been using it for 3 weeks. So no, no regrowth. I do not know if this product causes regrowth either.

oh yeah, and all that itchiness that i used to have, ..drastically reduced. Feels like i have a normal head of hair instead of a flea infested scalp

I plan to use this as long as it makes my hair look thicker as to me it is worth that at least. At 3 month mark i will post whats going on.

Thank you, I really appreciate it. Carry on guys.

Jacob, I will say you are annoying without cursing. He just said he is posting more photos. In the meantime maybe he just doesn't have any more to post. I have shown him my before photos and have asked him NOT to post them without my permission. Maybe others have done the same. It may not be as simple as you think. I'd have more tolerance for your incessant posts if you were actually trying the stuff. You're not, so why don't you sit back and let those using it report on it. If it doesn't work that's what they'll report. We are all adults here and the hair loss community really doesn't need you playing big brother trying to protect everyone. It really is quite annoying.

ljc08...why don't you be consistent and call the others who actually asked for the pictures..annoying, etc? And if he doesn't have any more to post..then he's making things up again.

With all the questionable things he's done and said already...not posting the pictures right away just raises more red flags.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=54182

http://www.hairlossfight.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1347

http://www.hairlossfight.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1373&hilit

The most any customer could have used our product for is only close to 3 months. On top of that we have people reporting that they are seeing regrowth and their hair is looking better. We offer a money back guarantee. We have provided pictures and we will be providing more pictures. If I post another picture of the same user all you would say is look his hair is a little longer. So I said I have someone in mind that has a buzz cut and I will post photos of him.

Goa'uld you and your wife are using Scalpure.

Would you say that Scalpure has made a positive difference in your hair?

Are you happy that you are using it?

Again..why not provide any and all pictures that you have already..NOW? Any before's..etc. See my previous post.

I can guess what Goa'uld will say..but I won't...

By the way that guy said he was 18 years old. Why couldn't he be experiencing the results he is speaking of. He is at his peak as a human being. It is obviously probable that he would see results faster than a lot of other people because he is catching his hair loss incredibly soon.

Jacob, I don't think the guy was saying asking steve to post more photos was annoying -- just you acting like if he didn't post them immediately there is something wrong. Steve never said that he had these photos just waiting to be uploaded. The only way steve can make people supply photos is if they are employees -- otherwise people will provide photos/come in for them as they see fit -- steve can't make people come provide photos by summoning them. It's unreasonable for you to act as if steve can just call these people up and get photos posted the same day.

I definitely agree with steve about the 'shill' thing. Anyone who has good results and posts it over there is going to be called a shill. Very much the same thing was going on here before -- if you agree with the group and only post things the group approves of, you're fine -- if you post something supporting a product the group doesn't believe in, or disagree with one of the 'in' members, you're a shill.

I do agree with you that steve should post any and all pics he has, not just the best ones he can find All of us who take pics know it's just like taking a facial pic - some look better/worse than others

Enough with the "beat down", the product will speak for itself if it works and fail if it does not. Anyone who is happy with it should post and not fear being called a shill. Also users who do not like it as well. That way there is a fair evaluation.

Steve, yes we are both using it and like I told you on the phone I will be posting my before and (slightly) after 1 month pics when I get my hair cut. As far as what I have seen, I do have much shinier hair and scalp feels fantastic and my itch is gone. Again its way to early for any regrowth IMO but I am happy with the things I have seen so far.

My Wife (who will not post pics of herself on the internet) said her hair dries much faster and is not "limp and lifeless" as it used to be. Keep in mind she does not have any hair loss but did have very oily and flat hair.

I will give a full description of our findings when I post my pics but now..... back to the Dolphin game. (Even though they are getting slaughtered) .

So to John..there's a big difference between what you're talking about and the examples I'm giving- for being called a shill. And that's also what I meant- post any and all pictures..no need to wait for "afters" down the line.

Goa'uld I'm merely going by how Scalpure was introduced here...how you guys yourselves went after him..then there's a complete turn around once free product is sent.

He has not gone out of his way to answer questions. It took the threat of being banned from the forum for picking and choosing what to answer..to get him to answer. And his explanations don't add up..for the taking things down etc.

People are using Scalpure and reporting positive things. This does not seem to sit well with you. Please let everyone now why that is.

I thought the whole idea of these forums was to conquer hair loss.

Still no answer as to why you are so interested in slamming our product when you are not using it and have no interest in ever trying it.

Still no answer to this also... People are using Scalpure and reporting positive things. This does not seem to sit well with you. Please let everyone know why that is.

Who says I have no interest in ever trying it? Given the claims you've made..everyone will be trying it eventually. It's those kinds of claims..the way you "introduced" yourself here(or should I say your company)..things that get taken of your site and Twitter's..the not answering questions until posting rights are threatened to be taken away...etc..THAT is why I'm so interested in posting about this. Keep in mind I'm also posting what others are saying/questioning.

Ppl can post all the positives they want. It's what it ends up doing long-term that counts. This is why I've asked if they've used other, similar products.

Private Mail me if I can get a sample Scalpure!

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I will not believe any of the pictures that do end up getting posted. These delay tactics...including not answering the question about them...well....sniff sniff.....hmmmmm.....

Look the way I look at any hair loss treatment is this.. Every treatment out there works differently on different people for starters. Some say Propecia and Minox did nothing for them while I am a great responder. Some say Lasers alone will work miracles and others say to combine it with other "coventional" treatments. The best way always IMO is to try them and see if they work, if they do, then that's great and if they don't, oh well it is just another failure. I could care less about pictures, website details, wild claims, negative posts or any of that. If I listened to that I would never of started any treatments because depending on where you go, you get mixed feedback. Just thought I would post this and believe me Jacob, if whether Scalpure works for me or not I will post honest details.

Goa'uld...you do have a point. I guess no one is even trying to defend what is done/not done and said/not said by them. But it looks that way when the ppl asking the questions and/or pointing out this stuff are "attacked"..etc.

I ordered six bottles of this stuff and I'm 1 1/2 months in. I just got my hair cut and the girl who cuts it said my hair looks a lot healthier and so does my scalp. She told me to keep doing whatever it is I'm doing. So far there has been no regrowth but there has been some slight thickening. I went through a little shed but the hair that came out were extremely weak and thin. Out with the old, in with the new. Who knows. I'm going to give Scalpure a six month trail but it annoys me all of the changes he's doing to the site.

I'm still using scalpure... i'm just over a month and a half in too 19060... can't say I've really seen any effect on my hair that I can tell yet, but it has helped clear up the rosacea on my face

In response to the changes we are making...

There is a hair clinic in Dubai whose clients absolutely love our product from samples that we have sent to them. For us to be able to legally export and distribute large quantities of our product outside the United States we need to get a Certificate of Free Sales. In order to do this, per regulations there had to be changes in the wording on the website as well as our label to stay within certain guidelines. Some of the wording could not stay because we are not a drug company. The most important thing is that people are seeing very positive results from using Scalpure and people seem to be very happy with what it is doing for their hair. On the label we changed More Hair to Fuller Hair because we are not allowed to write More Hair per regulations. We added More Volume, More Body and More Shine because these are also great benefits that people are seeing very early when using our product.

As for changing DHT to impurities and toxins. Again this is something we had to do in order to get the Certificate of Free Sales. When we got in touch with the department we needed to, they made us aware of changes that had to be made in order for us to comply with the regulations. The changes still have to be approved, so it is possible that wording might be changed even more. We are looking into how we can officially say that DHT is removed. It is my understanding that regrowth claims can only be made by drug companies.

As for the way we are going to market the product. We don't just want to target people that are concerned about hair loss. This is a product that can benefit everyone's hair. We have people using the product that are not experiencing hair loss and they love it. We are also getting very positive reports from people that are using our product for hair loss. It is very important for people to be aware that Scalpure is a product that can help everyone. I think the website is more geared toward speaking to everyone now. This is a great product to use once a week before your hair starts to thin and people should be aware of that. I would have gladly used this once per week starting when I was 20 years old because I know how much Scalpure does for your hair and scalp.

Steve...as I said elsewhere..I don't believe your excuse one bit. You started taking certain things down and changing things long before this supposed "Dubai" deal...and in fact, when asked why you were taking things down/changing things, you had an entirely different excuse at that time.

I've only done 4 or 5 applications and haven't noticed any change in thickness of hair...but my hair is definitely softer. I'm willing to try this for a few months and see if there are any further changes. One downside though...my head seems to be more itchy, not less. I'm going to start using Nizoral again to improve the itchiness...can't stand the smell of that shampoo but I think it'll help.

also, I remember someone complaining that scalpure smelled bad. I disagree. Not that it smells good , but it definitely isn't offensive.

So why do some things make your hair look better right away, like conditioners, possibly clay etc? Well, hair looks pretty much like a pine cone. It has cuticles which can open and close. Some chemicals, substances or other external factors can make them open, others make them close. When they are open, your hair will look thicker and behave slightly different. This is a temporary effect and does not mean that your hair has actually become thicker or that it grows quicker. It could be called a cosmetic effect. In part, it explains why your hair can look good one day and terrible the next. Add to that other cosmetic changes due to wetness/humidiy, static electricity, greasiness, state of the arrector pili etc.

There are thousands of cosmetic products which achieve this affect to various degrees.

On another note, products which reduce sebum (like GLA) or remove it (even common soap does that) have been tried time and over for AGA with no results whatsoever. Clogging of the follicle is the oldest scam in the book of hair loss scams. Products which have thus far been proven to work, like finasteride, do not affect sebum at all, since its production is governed by type I DHT.

This makes perfect sense and is not that complicated to understand. I don't think the only thing that accumulates around the hair roots is DHT. I believe there is sebum, dirt, dead skin cells, toxins, DHT, and other things that accumulate and cause gradual starvation to the follicle.

I would venture a guess that the majority of forum members have tried just about every thickening shampoo they could think of and if they thought our product was similar to those they would say so. We have had numerous respected forum members say great things about using our product and for some reason that is not good enough for you.

As for the website being changed, it was changed in order to get a Certificate of Free Sales. However, Scalpure is a product that should be promoted to everyone. With that said, the direction the website is currently moving in makes the product more appealing to everyone. Absolutely anyone that uses our product will see great benefits. That includes people with thinning hair or people with full heads of hair.

Since your post is a cut-and-paste from HLF it may not make much sense to readers in this forum. To provide some context, here are the latest questions from that thread (paraphrasing):

In light of your recent changes of your website, where you have removed many of your initial claims, what is your current stance on what your product can and cannot do? Specifically, do you claim that Scalpure can give regrowth for AGA subjects or offer anything but short-term cosmetic effects? This means I'm not interested in claims of shininess, lustre, fullness, volume or other vague terms. Those same things could easily be claimed by any shampoo, conditioner or toppik-like product.

There are still claims of regrowth on your website, though the previous explanation of the mechanism of action has been removed. Do you still claim that your product basically works by removing sebum which you allege "chokes" or "strangles" the follicle, so to speak, by hindering nutrients from reaching it? If not, what is your current claim regarding Scalpure's mechanism of action?

You mention "starvation". Do you thereby mean that nutrients are physically stopped by the crud?

I fail to see what is wrong with those questions, especially since you have changed a lot on your website recently.

Depending on your answers, there may be follow-up questions. If you think they are repeated, it is most likely because you haven't really answered them before. Please note that somewhat similar questions have been asked before, but I assure you that there are subtleties which are significant if you read carefully.

Also, I require that you immediately tell me where I have ridiculed someone reporting progress or that you retract that statement. Your insinuation that I would not like other members to see progress is baseless and quite offending. What are you trying to achieve by saying things like that? Polarization? Please keep on topic.

Looking forward to your answers.

I am not making any more claims because certain members get upset when I make claims. So I won't. I will let the respected forum members using our product say what it does for them. I am very comfortable to sit back and wait.

As for the ridicule I went back to the post to read it. The ridicule part was followed up better than I thought it was. So I will retract that. This is was what I considered ridicule.

Aviador said...

About Scalpure: I have been using the product for 1 month and a half and I already have better results than with A&G so far.

Your reply was... Which doesn't say much... :lol:

Again I am going to step back and let the product speak for itself. Actually it is already doing so but some people are not listening.

But what is it you're not getting into? Describing what your product actually does according to you, now that you've changed almost all the texts on your website? And specifically, if you are saying that your product (re)grows hair? That should be central to your argument, one would imagine. After all, just claiming "fullness", "shininess" etc is what jaydee would refer to as "kumbaya type" of stuff that we have heard a million times before.

Do you at least agree that anything that really works will take a few months to show results, since hair grows from the base? Any instant or almost instant visual results (within a week or two) on the hair are by necessity cosmetic for that reason. Please note that I'm neither saying that cosmetic results are completely useless nor that they preclude real results later on.

Also, I would be glad if you could point out any errors in my post that begins with "The reason that dutasteride, finasteride..." a few posts up.

Is there *anything* in that post that, according to you, is false?

I still say that it's worth sticking with...scalp feels great, haven't had any pimples or painful red bumps on my scalp since starting...and it is a great product for leaving on really bad pimples overnight.